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Why I’m So Mad at the Raw Food Movement Today

Last week I met someone whose story really moved me in a deep way.

About two weeks ago, I was visiting Dr. Graham at his fasting retreat in Costa Rica, along with my girlfriend and my friend Roger Haeske.

Dr. Graham had generously invited us for dinner and also to spend the day visiting his retreat near the Chirripo Mountain in Costa Rica.

The place is absolutely gorgeous! It’s about 4000 feet in elevation, so the air is a little cool at night and in the evening, but it’s was superbly sunny during the day.It’s right next to the Chirripo River, with amazingly beautiful water and big rocks, with a ton of little pools to jump into.

In fact, I couldn’t help myself but jumping in — and found the water to be surprisingly “refreshingâ€.

Let’s say that it got the blood flowing, like the cold water I’m used to in Canadian rivers and lakes.

Fortunately, there’s a pool with warmer water as well.But let’s get back to my story.

For lunch, we had a delicious smoothie made with bananas and papaya. It was of a beautiful bright orange color. We ate it with a variety of greens such as lettuce and celery.

I got to meet some of the people who fasted there, which reminded me of my own fast in 2005.

At this point, they had started eating for about a week.

For dinner, we were served one of the most beautiful, tasty and yet simple raw food meal I remember EVER eating in my life.

The entrée was a delicious smoothie made with orange juice and mangoes. It was just “wowâ€.

Then we had a bright red tomato-mango soup, flavored with a few fresh herbs. The tomatoes had been slightly dehydrated in the sun for a day, which gave them a chunkier consistency and more intense flavor.

Then the main salad came. It was just beautiful. It was “rice†made with a tropical squash called “chayote†that they had processed to make a base for the salad. On top of it was a delicious mixture of tomatoes, cilantro, mangoes and a few other ingredients I can’t remember.

But the most amazing thing about this meal is that it did not contain any fat — no avocados, nuts or seeds, or oils — and did not contain any salt.

These two ingredients are SO common in raw food cuisine that it’s rare not to have them featured in every single dinner recipe.Yet, it was absolutely delicious and satisfying.

It’s not that they never served any fat, but they just didn’t that day. And nobody was missing it, I can tell you.

A Meeting That Moved Me

At the table, I was sitting beside a wonderful woman who had just completed her fast at the retreat. We chatted both in English and in Spanish, because she had moved from South America to the USA when she was younger.

At some point I asked her about her fast.She told me something shocking.For over three years, she could not walk. And since the fast, she was walking again.

I could see the tears filling up her eyes as she was telling me her story.

What happened I asked?

It was arthritis. In fact, it got so bad that she could not hold any utensils. Now she was doing it, and walking again!

But here’s where the real shocker came:She told me that for 4 years she had been following a raw food diet!

That’s right! She had started the raw food diet 4 years ago, and her symptoms had gotten worse, to the point where she could not walk anymore.

But what kind of raw food diet?

“Frederic, she told me, I was eating raw foods for 4 years. I was following what they were saying, all of the gurus, like Robert Young and others.â€

Turns out she had done some live blood cell analysis. At this point, I knew where the discussion was headed. I wished she had met me at that time, and I would definitely have advised her against it.

But she did it, and the expected thing happened: all of the gurus told her she had some “fungus†in her blood and she needed to avoid all sugar, including fruits.

So she followed the raw food program as it’s recommended now by most raw food diet books you’ll get everywhere: a diet where you actually eat very little fruit and not that much more vegetables, and where you get most of your calories from fat and oils.

And from that point, things got worse and worse with her health.You could tell that this woman was dedicated to improving her health. But she also got very confused along the way.

As she was telling me her story, I could see how she was actually MAD at the people who led her astray.

Those so-called “gurus†who had no idea what they were talking about, and left her in a worse situation with their advice.

She had found out about the low-fat raw vegan diet and fasting through a friend of hers, who had in turn found out about it through my website.

It really was an amazing moment when these two persons came to me and told me eye-to-eye: “Frederic, I want to thank you. Without you, we would never be here.â€

Other Examples of Confusion

I would like to say that the raw food movement is “one big happy familyâ€, but that’s not the case.

There’s a WORLD of difference between the diet that I recommend, and the diet that you’ll see promoted in most other raw food books and websites.

The differences between the low-fat raw diet and let’s say, the Sunfood Diet (by David Wolfe), or the Hippocrates Diet, or Rainbow Green Live Food Cuisine (by Gabriel Cousens) are as great or GREATER nutritionally than the differences between the vegetarian diet and the meat-based diet.

I’m not saying that because I want to draw a line in the sand.Any nutritionist looking at a detailed nutritional analysis of these two kinds of diets will have to agree: these are completely different diets!

So it’s very misleading to mix everything together and call that “the raw food diet.â€

When someone tells you they “failed†on the raw food diet, you have to ask “what kind of raw food diet?â€

For example: I know a guy in Hawaii who was eating a 100% raw food diet for over 5 years. He even wrote a couple of books on the subject, and sold them through his website. Then a couple of years ago, he got really sick.

He stopped eating raw, and then revised his books to say that raw food was not the answer.

But he didn’t get sick because he started to eat cooked food.

He got sick ON the raw food diet program he was following.

And what kind of raw food diet was it? The high-fat raw diet – the same diet that’s recommended everywhere in the raw food movement (even though they will never give it that name).

Another example: ME!

I started on the raw food diet in 1997. That’s starting to be a little while ago.When I first started, there was not as much information available as there is today. The Internet was just getting going. In fact, my website was one of the first websites on the topic.

When I started the raw food diet, I was doing pretty well. I was following the European model for raw food, which was pretty much the low-fat raw diet, after having studied with my first mentor, Albert Mosseri from France.

Then I moved to California and I became very influenced by the main leaders of the raw food movement. You probably heard about them. They’re the biggest names people associate with “raw food diets†today.

The advice was pretty simple: eat as much raw food as you’d like! As long as it’s raw, it’s okay. You can eat as many avocados as you’d like. Raw is law. Cooked food is poison.

After less than a year on the program, I got seriously ill.

For an entire month I had no energy at all. Just walking for 2 minutes made me dizzy.

I was even afraid to tell people that I was sick, because raw-foodists were not supposed to get sick.

So I stayed in bed for an entire month, and ate only apples and a few other fruits.

After a month, I was feeling much better, and started working again.

Still to this day, I don’t know what happened to me. I did not consult any doctor (because doctors are cooked, I thought at the time), and I told very few people about what happened.

It was a sudden illness, but with plenty of warning signs.And I was young! I was in my early twenties, supposedly on the best diet in the world.

The rest of the story has been told in my book “The Raw Secretsâ€:

I discovered the mistake I was making, and then changed course to eat a lower-fat, high-fruit raw food diet, and now all of these years of struggle and low-energy just seem like a distant, unpleasant memory.

Some Good Examples

I told you earlier that my friend Roger Haeske came to visit me for a couple of weeks in Costa Rica.

I knew Roger because we had worked together on some projects, and through his own website and blog. But we had only met briefly in person while I was waiting for a flight in New York back in 2007.

He had never left North America in his life, and he was eager to come and check out Costa Rica. So I invited him to check it out, and got to show him around the Pacific Coast to some of my favorite, most beautiful spots I know in the world.

Roger has been eating a 100% raw food diet for 6 or 7 years I think. He had a similar history: he had started eating the high-fat diet everybody recommended, did not do well, and then switched to a low-fat raw diet and has been thriving ever since.

Let’s put it this way: Roger looks SHOCKINGLY young for his age.He’s almost 42.

When he was taking his shirt off and playing soccer with the Costa Rican kids on the beach, people were mistaking him for a “muchacho†in his twenties.

To be quite honest, I’ve never met a man in his early forties who looks as young as Roger does. He even looks better in person than he does in his pictures.

His open secret?

The low fat raw diet

Vigorous Exercise (Roger practices a series of high-intensity exercises he claims helps him stay young. I believe him. Check out his program here).

Blended salads! (for more information, check this out)

Another Example

Last summer, I met a 35-year old guy named Grant.

Grant is what people call “an ultra marathon runnerâ€, and what I affectionately call, “a crazy dude!â€

He’s done things such as running 100 kilometers through the mountains, where the hardest things at some point is just to fight off sleep while you’re running.

Basically, when Grant invites you to go out for a run, you better have a few hours available (if not a few days!).

Think Forrest Gump (without the chocolate part).People say all the time: those people who eat a high-fruit diet, they’re not really healthy. Eating 25 bananas a day can’t be healthy, they say.Yet, all of the healthiest people I have met have been eating this way.

In fact, whenever I’ve been to a typical raw-food potluck, I see a lot of pretty pale-looking people. Not the type you’d necessarily ask to help you move your furniture.Except if it’s a low-fat group. Then I’ll meet people who just INSPIRE me to get healthier and fitter.But back to Grant…

When I saw him again at Chirripo, he just had a glow in his face. “This is not the guy I met last summer!†I told him.

Even a camera won’t properly capture it.It’s something you’re not used to seeing. It’s a sort of radiating happiness.

Or maybe… it’s just this long-forgotten look we call “healthâ€.

I’ve met a lot of athletes. And often I just don’t see that look in their face.

Bodybuilders tend to be the worst. Even though they have the “perfect†body, they have the look of sickness in their eyes, coming from their protein overeating.

The State of the Raw Food Movement Today

I recently read an article written by a popular raw-food author.

Maybe you’ve seen this article, or maybe not. I’d rather not reveal the identity of the author as to avoid attracting unnecessarily attention to his teachings, because honestly, I’ve rarely read something that bad.

But I think it pretty much sums up the state of the raw food movement today: that of mass confusion.

Here’s the whole point of the article:

- The raw food diet is not the answer, but avoiding overeating is.

- The basic advice he gives is to eat raw, but to avoid overeating.

- You shouldn’t be counting calories, or percentages of fat versus sugar, but just make sure you don’t overeat.

Of course, “overeating†is never clearly defined in the article, and left to the imagination of the reader.

But he gives us some clues: according to him, eating 25 bananas a day is overeating.

On the good side, he advises against eating chocolate and too many raw food recipes.But what is overeating? Isn’t it not eating more than your body needs?

If an athletes needs 3000 calories per day, and yet eats 25 bananas a day plus some greens, they should technically be “under eatingâ€, because the bananas only provide 2500 calories at the most, and the greens almost none.

Calories

Oh, now some people will say “calories don’t matterâ€.

I used to believe that. Until I realized that calories are just the energy you get from food, and yes, they DO matter.

Everyone will naturally be drawn instinctively to eat the exact amount of calories they need, as long as they are provided with natural foods only and they put ridiculous theories in their minds such as “I must avoid overeating at all costâ€.

Over the course of a month, a wild animal will eat the EXACT amount of calories it needs.

I once did an experiment. I wrote down everything I ate for an entire month. I didn’t count calories. I just ate enough to be satisfied.

Then after a month, I calculated the calories for every day.

I was very surprised to realize that I ate almost the EXACT same amount of calories every single day, without counting them at all.

So you do NEED a certain amount of calories to survive and thrive.

The Real Overeating

The average raw-foodist is NOT overeating on total calories. In fact, they are “under eatingâ€.

What happens is the average beginner with the raw food diet will eat too much fat, and not enough fruits and vegetables.

Raw-Foodists are just not eating enough fruits and vegetables, period!

The advice of “avoiding overeating†is simply one of the worst I’ve heard in a long time.

Here’s what will happen: people will try to follow it, but with no real understanding of the nutritional balance that must be achieved on a raw food diet.

So they’ll keep eating too much fat, and not enough fruit. They’ll constantly be craving something, but will try to use their willpower to eat less, because they think their problem is overeating.

In fact, they’ll notice that they feel better when they eat less.

Of course! When they’re eating less, they’re eating less of the excess fat they were consuming!

But there’s still that nagging sense of constant hunger, and for that they blame themselves. “I must not overeatâ€.

Their body is BEGGING them to eat more carbohydrates, and they’re starting to seriously crave some sweets and some cooked foods.

But NO! I must not overeat.

Sooner or later, they’ll give in and either binge on something sweet other than fruit, or high-fat raw food recipes, or binge on chocolate and pasta.

Then they’ll feel bad, because of the “overeatingâ€, but get enough calories to keep them going for a while.

And the cycle will go on and on, over and over again, until their health goes down the drain.

Raw Food Restaurants

Last summer, I took two weeks to drive through California on a vacation.

I flew to Los Angeles, drove to San Diego, drove all the way to San Francisco, then Fort Bragg where the Raw Food Expo was happening, and then drove all the way back to LA.

Let’s say that I did a lot of driving!

But I also got to stop at many raw-food restaurants along the way, because after all, California is the “Mecca†of raw-foods.

What I found by eating at a few different raw food restaurants is this:

- First of all, very few fruits and vegetables are served. In my opinion, you can get more fruits and vegetables if you go to an Italian restaurant, or even a Steak House, than you’ll ever get at a raw food restaurant.

For example, at Juliano’s restaurant, I was served the special of the day. It was a sort of imitation of Fettuccini Alfredo. The vegetables used were zucchini, bathing in a white sauce made with nuts and who knows what. The whole thing was very fatty, very salty, and in my opinion, not very good at all. The quantity of vegetables used was TINY compared to what I’m used to eating. And I got the same experience at every other raw food restaurant where I stopped!

- It takes much more creativity to create a gourmet meal out of fruits and vegetables, without using a lot of fat and without using salt and spices. Then you have to be a REAL chef and rely upon the natural flavors of food, the presentation, the combinations, etc.

But any fool can add a bunch of fat and salt to a dish and make it taste reasonably good. So that’s why I say I’m not impressed with raw food restaurants: I really don’t see a lot of creativity there. All they’re trying to do is reproduce the meals from the Standard American Diet using raw ingredients.

Conclusion

This is getting to be a pretty long article, and I feel I still have a lot more to say.So let me wrap it up with a conclusion.

I’m mad at the raw food movement because of all of the misinformation spread everywhere.

And in fact, I’m very close to saying that there is no such thing as the “Raw food movementâ€.

What we seem to have is a circus of self-proclaimed gurus who are promoting completely conflicting philosophies. You might as well separate them into two or three completely different diets.Yet, they all want to sing under the same banner. Well, not so fast…

As a group, the raw food movement is pretty confused; when in fact, it does not need to be so complicated. When in the world did we think that this diet was supposed to be about packaged “superfoodsâ€, chocolate, and recipes that imitate cooked foods?

The whole thing was about eating LOTS of fruits and vegetables! An abundance of fruits and vegetables — not an abundance of fats and oils.

You can become incredibly healthy, but you have to know where you’re going.

Are you going to keep trying to mix all kinds of conflicting philosophies into a mishmash of a program that works more or less for you… or are you ready to radically transform your health using the principles of the low-fat raw food diet?

I’ve met a TON of people all around the world who are experiencing amazing success with the low-fat raw food diet.They all seem to have some things in common:

- They have given it enough time. Not just a few weeks or a month or two.

- They are paying great attention to MANY factors of their health, not just diet.

- They eat a LOT of fruits AND greens, and very little fat.

- They try to make health and fitness their priorities.

http://www.fredericpatenaude.com/blog/?p=210

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Comments

  • AVLAVL

    Wow, I really enjoyed reading the article. I do agree that I feel my best when I eat a lot of fruit and vegetables, and little fat. The proof is that I had a lot of nuts tonight with some dry fruit, and OMG boy do I ever feel like crap. I feel heavy, lethargic and bloated. I probably should have read this article before eating!

  • awesome article jakkrabbit. awesome. How old are you? you have an "old soul". :) that is good, lots of wisdom for such a young girl!

  • Thanks for this article! A great reminder for me. I have seen a few videos and articles by Frederic P. and felt them to be clear and ring true for me. Back to the basics: Lot of Fruits

    and Veggies...

    Everyday

    with gratitude. Yum!

  • I'm so sorry, I didn't mean to give the impression that I had written the article! It's written by Frederic Patenaude

    http://www.fredericpatenaude.com/blog/?p=210

  • hmm, I still have a problem with FAT=BAD. There are so many different kinds of fat's some are bad some good. And of course nobody knows which one is good and which is bad, according to western medicine I should be in the hospital by now because of the amount of saturated fat I eat and people who follow a raw-vegan-diet (with fat) should be very healthy because of the large amount of poly-unsaturated fats but they feel not good on poly-unsaturated fats, I (and some more people with the same strange diet) feel very good on saturated fat.

    I never tried palm fat (saturate fat) maybe it gives completely different results then the un-saturated fats?

    Then of course if you heat fat everything changes.

    Why do normal people like fatty things so much (normal sad food is often yellow)?

    And in some cultures fat is more valuable than anything else?

    A lot of hormones are depended on fat.

    your brain is largely fat.

    You don't get fat of fat.

    So much I don't know.

  • I like Roger Haeske and regularly read his newsletters, and I really like Frederic Patenaude for his wealth of information. I even subscribe to his Raw Food Monthly Mentor Club. I am, however, taking the same stance as RawEverything.

    I totally agree that too much fat is not good for our health even if it's raw, but I'm not convinced yet that everybody does well with only 10% or less fat. Some athletes develop essential fatty acid deficiency when they are on low fat diet for a long time, and some studies have also confirmed that a low fat-high sugar diet causes an increase in fatty acid synthesis and in inpalmitate-rich, linoleate-poor VLDL triacylglycerols.

    As for salt, I believe our body needs 1 - 1.5g sodium per day to function properly. I can't get that much salt by just eating fruits and veggies. Maybe people eating 2000 calories or more can, but I'm very short and my body burns only about 1650 calories in a day, so I don't eat that much. In fact, two highly qualified kinesiologiests tested on me and they both told me I needed to consume more salt.

    As for herbs, I'm totally against taking herbs as supplements, but I don't see that using a little bit of fresh or dried herbs in our food would do serious harm to our body. Chinese people have used herbs for 2000 years after all.

    I'm going to read the 80/10/10 diet book and keep doing more research, but at this time I still believe that there is no one size fit all diet. I think it's good to use the 80/10/10 diet as a base but it should be adjusted to each person's needs.

  • So the low fat raw diet is kind of the 80/10/10?? My big question here is where do I get my b-12 by eating like this, I mean actually without knowing I've been eating like this and yes I do feel good, but I still get worried about not having enough vitamins so I have to take a b-12 supplement because actually I was becoming anemic and I really don't like having supplements. Anyone knows about it??

  • rawpretzela, I think it is definitely a good idea to take a b12 supplement. Even Dr. Graham and Frederic Patenaude recommend the supplementation.

  • RawPretzel,

    If your going to follow a raw vegan diet you really should supplement with B-12. There just isn't B-12 in fruits and veggies. One can get B-12 from soil (not washing your food)- but the amount you would get would be questionable. Fecal contamination can also up the b-12 in food- but this also introduces other problems:-) Safest bet is the supplement.

  • Frederic P. has alot of the typical prejudices of 80/10/10 fanatics--they think that only professional athletes are healthy, and insult people who are not tan or body builders; as apparently no one else is allowed to have a different concept of beauty or health. I agree that low-fat is best, but I really think the dogma in this article is ridiculous, as is the attitude, insulting people who attend potlucks and raw chefs at resturaunts.

  • Well.... firstly.... I find it difficult to read or listen to Frederic P. He seems to me to have a cult-ish / I know what's best for everyone attitude and I cant follow that mentality. To be fair to the guy though... I haven't listened to him speak in YEARS so a lot could have possibly changed. I used to get email sent to me almost daily and his whole agenda seemed to be focused on making money off of people. Sadly though....the other 'gurus' out there are doing the same thing.

    Makes me sad.... I also share a frustration with the Raw foods community. Everyones idea of 'one size fits all' mentality. We talk about being free minded and spiritually advanced...on a mental high....and we close off everyone who doesnt follow our diet to a -T-

    I dont think it is fair to knock raw food authors and restaurant owners for the fact that they make raw gourmet meals. They dont promote eating super high fat diets rather than showing what can be done with raw foods and offering VARIETY!!! They are not saying 'hey... have our alfredo daily, followed by our carrot cake' ...I see mention ALL the time in uncook books the fact that water, fruits and veggies are super important to the diets! It seems these 80/10/10ers or LFRV-ers just shoot down the gourmet movement. Not cool. They are appealing to the masses and just trying to get people to take small steps.

    I am all about finding what works best for my body while keeping education and research at the top of my list. Why? So I can help others that DONT respond how my body does. I want to help people understand they can make changes in SMALL ways that can GREATLY affect their lives. Then..when they see those changes... they can make another small change and another. If that means they make a gourmet dish so they can sit down and feel more apart of their families lives then so be it. Who am I to say what is best for anyone. It seems a lot of people have A LOT of opinions on whats best for everyone. People need to take responsibility for their own actions and their own lives and figure out what works for them....trying hard NOT to fit some coined term!

    Cheers!

  • Good thoughts, inspired me to change the title of the post, as you can see. :)

  • I knew you hadn't written it, but you find GREAT tidbits of info online, and pick them well!

  • Thanks for posting this article. I know there's a lot of difference in the types of raw food diets. I love that we can share this information here and openly discuss it like this.

    Now that's what I call being open minded and looking for the right answers. :) And not just a cookie cutter approach either...

  • Wow, that is one interesting website- I found the article about cacao- especially interesting. I was thinking of getting some- I won't now! I'll look for raw carob instead.

  • I'm so glad you posted this. I am very new to this, only 3 weeks, and I feel like I have been over consuming fats. All the cookbooks have high fat recipes though, so I have been thinking that it must be OK. Meanwhile, my digestion has been lousy and I have been feeling run down. I also haven't lost any weight. I am not overweight, but I kind of just got the impression that the extra 15 lbs I've been lugging would fall right off in 2 weeks. I guess I'm a sucker for thinking I could eat 700 calories worth of nuts in a day and lose weight, but this is how many cookbooks make it seem.

    So, what is a good amount of fat to eat?

  • Casey, I was in the same position as you when I first went raw back in 2007. I tried a still popular un-cook book for a couple weeks, but I always felt hungry, it took forever to make anything, and every dish was brimming with fat. I finally added up the amount of fat I was eating (I followed the meal plan in the book) and it was over 40% of calories from fat each day! I just knew that was crazy and figured the raw food diet was just another fad diet.

    Luckily, I came across a low fat, high fruit raw vegan diet and never looked back. :)

    The recommended amount of fat is no more than 10% of total calories. This is not everyday, but over the course of a month or a year.

    Swayze

    www.fitonraw.com

  • pls delete. thanks.

  • Gosh that is a lot for toothpaste- I can get organic toothpaste here for £3.50. I don't agree with everything he says but yes, he does advise caution on some things which need to be mentioned. But my way of looking at raw veganism at the moment is that we are all different and what works for one person might not work for another- for instance I'm a 5'3 middle aged woman (with a sedentary lifestyle at the moment)- I don't need 3,000 calories a day. Some people want to eat mostly fruit- I don't- I want a balance of fruit, vegetables, nuts and some cooked legumes and root vegetables.That I feel, will work for me- wholesome, natural, vegan wholefoods, mostly raw, that will rebalance my body and clear out the eczema.

  • There was a guy who lived in my building last year who kept trying to tell me meat, saturated animal fats were good for you and didn't cause cholesterol. He was forever going on that veganism was unhealthy! His cooking stank the house out and when he had a toilet visit you didn't want to be around. :O

    What a fun video! You must have a strong constitution to be in there though- I have read and seen on vidoes that durian fruits smell of old socks, despite them being nutritious.What do they taste like? Some people say they taste of onions some of custard. We don't get them in Britain.

  • K, it sounds good, but after reading all of this guys blog then to get all this guys program it's $143.95 for all the books, some of them ebooks and DVD. It feels like another guru. Any validation out there in goneraw land? excpet to say I spent the whole day ill from a coconut oil/carob "treat" I made myself last night, and knew I had to eat grapefruit to try and combat the fat...so this guy may be onto something. And I have always felt that we should be able to eat fruit, so many frown on it, but in that I have gotten my gut more cleaned out I don't have the candida problem as much anymore, so he is making more sence than many other gurus. ANd yet, my body type accorning to chinese medicine needs more fat, and my skin sometimes splits, assuming I am not getting enough fat....man.

    emily

  • missemy, body type has nothing to do with diet. Have you ever met a horse, elephant, lion, etc. that eats a specific diet different from the rest of its species because of it's blood type/ metabolism rate/etc? It's complete nonsense.

    In regards to Frederic Patenaude (I'm assuming that's who you're referring to...), his stuff is great. His book, The Raw Secrets, got me interested in raw again and the Perfect Health Program really cemented all the info for me. I think PHP is on sale right now, too. :)

    Swayze

    www.fitonraw.com

  • Regarding different diets for different people (and other animals): A cow in India would naturally eat very differently than a cow in the US, who would eat differently than a cow in southern Africa. Climate is different, food supply is different, and thus general lifestyle is different. Same with people. My ancestors are from eastern Europe, where it was cold for a good part of the year. Only certain kinds of flora and fauna grew there. Their diet was very different from the ancestors of a person whose family is from Costa Rica, with a totally different climate and different flora and fauna. Like it or not, we do have physical differences based on our ancestry. It's foolish to think that these differences don't affect the way our bodies process different foods. And of course, where we live today and the type of lifestyle we live also greatly affects how our bodies process different foods.

  • Do you have any proof, links, etc that cows in india eat differently.

    I heard some kids on youtube starved a cow , and it ate a duck.

    If a cow in india was fed different foods from people, then that is people controlling the cows diet, not the cow.

    Your point becomes invalid if we take into consideration that domesticated animals eat what people let them eat. People eat different foods in different regions, thus there animals eat different foods that are available by the people, not occurring naturally.

  • I just think there's some truth that we have different body types. ayur veda medicine, as is chinese, is very interesting, and I know from experience, like yesterday. We live in a High Desert. I survive, o.k but really don't like the dryness like my husband., but love it when we go to the beach, my hair is better, I feel better, my husband who is has a thicker body type (I am thin) HATES THE HUMIDITY, And when we have t-storms I love it, he hates it as with friends of mine that are thicker. I tend to be dry, he tends to have too much moisture/fat. However I don't beleive in the blood type at all. unless you have a needle you wouldn't know how to eat??? silly. I think it's that self knowing. I think maybe I have some pancreas issues as I wake up hung over every morning, I just got a vitamix as I need the fruit in the morning to clear out. I assume I need a cleanse or something. But even after a little fat on my salad yesterday I was ready to hurl. (Thankfully was at a Whole Foods that has a juice bar, so the guy made me a drink to combat the fat) anyway, thanks for your opionions and experiences I appreciate it.

    emily

  • My problem is my body is not how it started out in life

    I have taken a lot of antibiotics and the pill in my teens and twenties and had v bad food poisoning and I now, as a result, have low "DAO", the enzyme that breaks down histamine in the body..I used to think I was allergic to different foods before I was diagnosed with this.

    Everytime I get a histamine overload (which can include pollen etc I get really sick and I get symptoms as though I am allergic to the particular food I am eating which actually on another day I am not. My immunologist recommended a raw food diet - I did not come to it on my own and I am so glad that he did.

    My point is that we are all different depending on our experiences so far.

    Pineapple for example is high in histamine so are avocados so I have to watch these

    I have been up to 80% raw for the past year and am now 100% . I cannot just eat fruit however and have to mix with a lot of greens

    B12 is actually a big histamine maker in the body so I have to make sure `i have some B12 in my body ( regular check Ups) but supplementing could cause me to overdose and might make me go into shock ( can't breathe etc). I appreciate that I am an extreme case but I thought I would share this as it is very easy as a newbie to think that one must eat totally according to someone else's direction

    Please go easy on supplements get tested and find out id you need them .. too much of a particular vitamin can be as bad as too little and not all excesses are excreted from the body .

    Although I would love to eat high fruit low fat raw and indeed 30 bananas a day, I have to try things very gently and modify the diet to suit my health at this time

    Thank you Swayze, your website helped me to convert to raw.

  • interesting...I have a hard time with pinneapple too.

    any help with this one out there, I awoke at 3:00 with major pain in my eyes, it feels like someone thew sand in them, I can barely see.

    I have juice and eaten watermelon, and juice a carrot, and lemon water to try and clear my kidneys as I read that eyes are connected to the kidneys.

    I hater trying to figure this all out, there is no Dr that helps in that hardly any believe in this way of eating, even the naturopathic types.

    emily

  • Cows are herbivores. They may eat different plant foods depending upon where they live, but it still falls into the herbivorous category.

    People are the same way. Sure, we can eat lots and lots of different foods and survive quite well, but it doesn't mean we will thrive on all foods. Human anatomy and physiology is the same and suggests a fruit predominated diet, regardless of where you live in the world.

    As far as dietary issues, such as food allergies, this is idiosyncratic and does not change the basic formula: lots of fruit, moderate greens, and limited fat.

    You're welcome, Mysterie! And BTW, please don't feel like you have to eat 3000 calories a day as a goal on this diet. Yes, many people do eat that much and more, but that doesn't mean you need to. I am quite active right now (high intensity interval training 5 days per week, tennis 5 days per week) and yet I eat about 2800 calories on those days, still under the 3000 calorie mark. I would feel bloated and uncomfortable adding any more food at all unless I upped my activity level, which definitely is not on my agenda. :)

    As long as you feel satiated between meals, you are doing awesome.

    Swayze

    www.fitonraw.com

  • so...no ideas of what would cause this pain in my eyes?

    thanks !

    hours later............

    I called my biodeedback Dr...major stress on my liver and kidneys in the verdict. so today especially, fruit is my friend.

  • Hi missemy, sorry I missed your post! I have no idea what your pain could be, but I would suggest a short fast or at least eating very very simply for the next week (like bananas and water only). Also, you could contact Dr. Graham on his forum "Raw Food and Sports" at vegsource.com and ask him.

    Hope that helps,

    Swayze

    www.fitonraw.com

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