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Vitamix a Toxic Blender ?!!

Hi all….

I have been searching a long time for a real save powerfull blender that is capable of rupturing every cell open from the plant cellulose in the greens, so that our bloodcells can absorb the nutrients. According to Victoria Boutenko’s books the Vitamix is a good buy for this, so I decided to buy it last week.

When it arrived I first cleaned out the container with water and immediately noticed a very unpleasant smell coming out of the container. So I thought hey what is this, I just bought probably the best blender in the world and the container doesn’t smell good, so I started to wonder how is this smell (gas) going to chemically react with the smoothies when I blend it in this container. (I have to mention that I have an incredible good smell, I can smell things that others cannot, but that to a side note)

I studied up a bit on the Vitamix container and quickly discovered that the container is made from Polycarbonate. I was shocked to read that Polycarbonate is a highly TOXIC material that BIG time influences our hormones. Water bottles are quite often also made from Polycarbonate and I know the basic ingredient is Bisphenol A. Toxic material researcher Dr. H. Clark also mentions this in her books, about the severe toxitivity of this material. But the thing is when the Polycarbonate smells, you can be certain that there is Bisphenol A leaking, and thus releases toxins. Smell = Gas and smelling Gas = toxic

When fluids in these kind of Polycarbonated waterbottles where lab tested by independent reseachers it showed high concentrations of Bisphenol-A in the bottled water, as this kind of plastic material leaches this into the water. And this goes really quick, it’s a very reactive material with fluids !! Bisphenol A causes cancer and comletely screws up hormones over a period of time. http://www.debraslist.com/freecontent/fca_toxic…

Also type in Google: Bisphenol A TOXIC Cancer (you will find thousands of links with info about this toxic stuff)

If you read a bit about Bisphenol A you will see that a lot of kids toys and even baby milk bottles have been banned because of this toxic stuff that leaks into the fluids.

So now my one week old Vitamix is about to go out of the door again, maybe I will just place it on the street. I am really dissapointed when I found this out!

I have a friend who is a chemist and I am going to supply him with a smoothie made with the Vitamix and let it test for concentrations of Bisphenol-A, will report back about this.

Btw, I contacted Vitamix about this toxic material. They hide themselves behind a report from the European Safety Comission, telling me that Bisphenol A and Polycarbonate are just fine and very safe. This is also the same commission that says that Aspartam (Nutrasweet), Amalgam fillings and so many other toxic materials are perfectly save. HMMMMMMMM ?

Also what is quite alarming is that Nickel hase been used in the alloy of the Vitamix blade from what I just found out. Nickel is Mega poison ! How much of this get’s or reacts with the the blended food that we make with the Vitamix I asked myself. I mean every acidic food (tomato/apple/citrus etc) reacts to metals, that is 101 chemical science. Except precious metals, like gold silver and Platinum. Ofcourse, that is why they are called “precious”. What I found weird is that Vitamix didnt even use a Stainless steel grade without Nickel for it’s blade, I mean there are 150 grades of Stainless steel on the market. They could have opted for a saver type of Stainless steel in my opinion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stainless_steel

I spoke Vitamix about this and they hide themselfs that blending only takes a very short time and thus there wont be so much Nickel in your blended food. Well, they forgot to mention that the blade makes around 37000 rotations per minute so the food comes into contact with Nickel thousands of times.

So now I am looking out for a realll powerfull NON-toxic blender that like the Vitamix is also capable of rupturing every plant cell from the veggies but this time with a “healthy” blade and a non-toxic container which would be made from glass. I would be more then thankfull for any suggestions.

I also thought about to have my own blender container “tailor made†made from glass and the blade also “tailor made” by a company who is specialized in this, which would both perfectly fit on the Vitamix base. But this probably will become very expensive. There might even excist a non-reactive coating material on the market to coat the Polycarbonate container, but I am still in search for a company who could do this for my Vitamix container.

I would not mind if the warranty would be voided then. I mean it’s all about our health isn’t it, so who cares about warranties.

Help/suggestions would be more then appreciated.

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  • Thanks for the heads-up. I think I’ll stick with my Oster Fusion with the glass carafe!

  • NOOOOOOO!!!!!! THis soo totaly SUCKS!! I am completly bummed and am wondering if I can get my money back, I love my Vitamix!! DAMN IT!!!! I dont know about the blade or the grade of Stainless Steel but the old vitamix container was metal, as if thats any better! Damn It Damn It Damn IT! SO LAME!!

  • I even planned to make my own baby food with the Vitamix, be aware !!!

    Chemicals in Baby Products

    As children’s minds and bodies go through the delicate processes of growing and developing, they are particularly vulnerable to chemicals that could affect proper development. And because children have a natural tendency to suck on objects as a way of exploring the world around them, harmful chemicals can leach out of these products and enter their bodies.

    Phthalates in plastic toys and baby products

    Phthalates are chemicals added to PVC plastic to make it soft and flexible. Among many other things, they are used in soft plastic toys and other baby products, such as some teethers, bath books, and “rubber†ducks. Phthalates are not chemically bonded to PVC plastic, which easily allows them to leach from the plastic.

    Scientific studies show that:

    · Phthalates can interfere with the natural functioning of the hormone system. · Phthalates can cause reproductive problems and genital malformations. · Exposure is linked to premature birth and early onset of puberty. · Phthalates may lower sperm count and are associated with the risk factors for testicular cancer. · Phthalates are linked to allergies and asthma. · Exposure may be linked to liver and kidney damage. · Exposure can also interfere with the normal development of a fetus.

    Four phthalates are classified as reproductive toxins by the state of California. Despite this classification, California does not have the authority to restrict the use of phthalates in consumer products.

    The European Union and at least 14 countries already have banned or are phasing out phthalates from children’s products to protect children’s health. Although several of the leading manufacturers of toys and baby products in the U.S. have restricted the use of phthalates over the last few years, there are still many products on the market that do contain phthalates.

    With the passage of Environment California-sponsored AB 1108 (Ma-San Francisco), California became the first state in the country to ban the use of phthalates in children’s products.

    Bisphenol A in plastic feeding bottles

    Bisphenol A is an industrial chemical that is used to make polycarbonate plastic. Among other products, it can be found in clear plastic baby bottles, reusable water bottles, and microwave ovenware. This has caused concern since bisphenol A can leach out of the products and may affect human health.

    Scientific studies show that at very low levels:

    · Bisphenol A can disrupt the normal functioning of our hormones.

    · Bisphenol A can cause behavioral effects, including hyperactivity and increased aggression.

    · Bisphenol A can lead to impaired learning.

    · Bisphenol A is associated with obesity and diabetes.

    · Bisphenol A exposure can affect the timing of the onset of puberty.

    · Bisphenol A stimulates mammary gland development, which is a risk factor for breast cancer.

    · Bisphenol A can significantly increase prostate size.

    · Bisphenol A can alter the functioning of the immune system.

    · Bisphenol A is associated with miscarriages in women.

    · Exposure can also interfere with the normal development of a fetus.

    Studies also show that bisphenol A can leach out of plastic baby bottles. The leaching appears to accelerate if the bottle is old or scratched.

    Some major bottle producers, such as Medela, make plastic bottles without bisphenol A. However, most major U.S. baby bottle manufacturers use bisphenol A in their production, and there is no law prohibiting its use.

    http://www.environmentcalifornia.org/environmen…

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    I also have to mention that if you ask the chef Vitamix Sales rep. about toxic materials in the Vitamix, she becomes really irritated. Totally not pleasant to communicate with.

    She even mentioned that using a Microwave is perfectly save. Talking about being a company that knows what it is talking about, they don’t have a clue what save materials are !!!!!

  • I, too, love my vita-mix. What about the K-Tec which I think has a Lexan container- Any info on that? I will coninue to use mine and hope that all the plastic storage and other chemicals I have eliminated over the past year will “balance” whatever is coming out of the vitamix. I can’t hardly wait to hear what the chemist finds in the smoothie!

  • @deborahann

    If you read this link you will see that a Lexan container is also made from Polybicarbonate. http://www.debraslist.com/freecontent/fca_toxic…

    About Lexan:

    What you store your water in could be just as important to your health as the kind of water you drink. For instance, Lexan bottles (and, in fact, all bottles made with #7 plastic) are quite unstable, and have been shown to have toxic effects on the body.

    In a recent study, polycarbonate plastics (including Lexan) were shown to increase aneuploidy, an abnormal loss or gain of chromosomes, which contributes to miscarriages and disorders like Down Syndrome in humans.

    Nalgene is one brand that manufactures Lexan water bottles. I have a few of these in my cabinet, and use them primarily for hiking and camping trips in the Rocky Mountains. Since discovering that Lexan can be dangerous to my health, I’ve severely limited my use of them.

    http://ryanhealy.typepad.com/ryans_blog/2005/04…

  • Amazing info Shaker~ A few thoughts came to my mind… I’m wondering if what you smelled when you unpacked the blender was from the manufacturing process and/or a build up from being packaged. Not that that makes it any better. I was just thinking how many times I have gotten something new and it had a “smell” to it that went away. Like when one gets a new car… Maybe that should be a red flag… hm? I was also thinking if something is made with Bisphenol A and/or nickel, is there a way to pull it out (do a detox) of the item, some type of preparation before using (like soaking the item is some sort of solution)? This inquiry is not to justify the use of these toxic substances, but as an inquiry to living in a toxic world.

    Putting the toxic issues aside, from what I have seen, the Vita-mix is a great blender. With these issues, it is surprising to me that it is so widely used and by very reputable health-related institutions. Possibly a plan for change is not to wait on the manufacturer to “get it” about the potential health issues. Possibly a plan for change is to generate a grassroot campaign to “encourage” the company to change due to financial consideration (people telling them they are not buying their product because of these issues and working with them to find a solution).

    Again, I am not justifying anything here, simply inquiring for a solution that works for everyone.

  • @Bluedolfin

    I also had that thought why it is so smelly that it could have something to do with the manufacturing process, as it is new. So I soaked it and soaked it, over and over again, and the smell still did not dissapear, it constantly came back. I even soaked it for hours in extreme hot water, but also to no avail. Nope there is definatelly something wrong with the material in my opinion.

    In respect to your remark to soaking the container in a sollution to sort of coat the Polycarbonate would sound really like music in my ears, but I don’t have a clue in what kind of solution we should soak this then. I read on some websitez that “smart” companies are doing this with their Polycarbonated plastics, but they keep it a secret how they exactly are doing this.

    And what your remark concerns, that the Vitamix is a great blender. I can only agree with that, I have never seen such a powerfull blender, but then again the material grrrrrrrrrr.

  • Hi Shaker~ I was thinking rather than a “coating” that the soaking solution would draw the material out. I don’t know if this would cause structural breakdown though. This is kinda a black hole for me thinking about it… I think we need a chemical engineer for the expertise. Yoohoo, is there a chemical engineer out there?

    As to your blender, did you try to soak it with baking soda or maybe viniger in the water? But the soaking solution would depend on what the smell is all about… Not knowing that and trying to counter it is shooting in the dark…

    I can understand your sense of smell. I have a sensitivity to mold or something. I can tell when a bad orange or berry is used in something… it tastes “off” to me. Others have said it tastes fine… Ugh! Maybe we were “substance sniffing dogs” in an earlier life. ;-)

  • Thanks, Shaker, for the informative posts. I, too, am bummed by this news because I’ve been using my vitamix for quite a while and I’ve hope it’s been contributing to my good health. What you’re writing sounds intuitively right to me, but I don’t have the chemistry background to know whether or not the amounts of toxic chemicals are significant enought to affect longterm health of adults. With children, yes, I’d be more cautious.

    I’ve also noticed a certain odor when using the vitamix. Sort of a rubbery smell. Sometimes I can even taste something rubbery (not my ground up rubberbands… but something from the blender). When I first got the vitamix I was disappointed the container was plastic, not glass, because I’ve read about Bisphenol A. One question for you about Bisphenol A. I’ve read that temperature differences have an effect on the release of the chemicals. Do you know anything about this? If the vitamix container remains in a temperature stable environment, is there a chance it won’t release as many toxins as you’re indicating here?

    What a drag…

  • @Bluedolfin

    I would assume that if I soak it with Baking soda that after a few blend-runs “the nutralized coating” will wear of again. I mean the baking soda won’t penetrate the outside layers of the plastic container, so it might only be a temporary relieve, if at all.

  • @Shane

    “One question for you about Bisphenol A. I’ve read that temperature differences have an effect on the release of the chemicals. Do you know anything about this? If the vitamix container remains in a temperature stable environment, is there a chance it won’t release as many toxins as you’re indicating here? “

    Thanks for your reaction. I responded earlier in this tread about temperatures making a sort of difference, here is the copy/paste:

    Thanks for your answer. Plastic materials that are not hardened enough leach their toxic ingredients in the fluids, independent of the fluid temperature, it simply just leaches.It is like plastic teeth fillings, you have leaching ones and non leaching ones.

    Ofcourse if heated fluids are being used in the plastic container (bottle) then the toxins leach out even quicker. Also according to Dr. H. Clark it all has to do with the hardening of the fabcricated plastic, this can make a huge difference. You can even have a very toxic plastic become completely nutral if it has been hardened enough by very high dry heath.

    Again it’s all about the hardening, and I can tell you this Vitamix container is definatelly not hardened enough else it would not smell.

    Don’t focus to much on the rating # of the plastic, it’s also about the hardening process.

  • Maybe a grassroots e-mail cmpaign to encourage the Co. to manufacture a glass container that you could buy seperately. I would be willing to do that. This seems to be the blender most widely used by people engaged in a healthy lifestyle and if these facts were widely known, it might encourage the masses to let the Co. know their feelings on the situation. Thanks for all the info.

  • @Deborahann

    I already asked Vitamix Corp why they don’t use a glass container, or at least give the people a choice in respect to the container they chose to buy. The answer from them was: That is out of consideration as one might accidently leave a metal spoon or other metalic material inside the blender and then the glass container might explode in a thousand pieces because of the power during blending.

    I cannot really imagine this as in my opinion the metal spoon would be earlier ruptured apart then a thick glass container when blending on full boost.

    Besides that according to the sales rep Vitamix is proud that their containers are made from the same plastic material that is used for Airplane windows, in other words super strong. Btw, I found their logic that a metal spoon could destroy a real thick glass container not logic. I mean there also exists bullet proof glass windows for cars, and those are around 1 cm thick and can withstand a .44 Magnum !!

  • Hi Shaker~ You have done a lot of work talking with Vitamix. However, when you speak with a sales rep (no offense to sales reps intended) you are speaking with someone with little power/influence in the company. They are a frontline buffer/gatekeeper, one of the hardest jobs around. To really make a difference, speak with the President, Product Manager for the product, and/or Head of Research/Engineering (or whatever they call that department).

    As to creating a “coating” or leaching out the toxic stuff to a “usable” level, a chemical engineer who knows how to do it can better suggest a solution. I threw out baking soda as an example because, like duck tape, it works for soooo many things. :-)

    Since you are so knowledgeable about this stuff, I was wondering if you knew anything about infrared ovens. I saw they can be used for dehydrating and dehydrates faster than a regular dehydrator. I have no knowledge about how they work, if they work like a microwave, heat stuff up, or whatever… basically clueless, but interested. Any info is appreciated. :-)

  • Is nothing sacred?

    It’s interesting because I just came back from shopping for a water bottle. I decided not to buy anything because it all just seemed to feel too plasticy and toxic.

    What does everyone think about these Kleen Canteen bottles? What happens if you scratch them while cleaning, will it then start to leach things into the water? Maybe it would just be better to use this for hiking, and find a glass water bottle somewhere.

    As for blenders, is there anything that is glass, has a high quality stainless blade, and works very well? I’m not looking to crush every single plant cell, but I do want something I can rely on as right now I’m looking for a new blender. Is Jack Lalane’s HealthMaster made of glass? Is the Oster Fusion of good quality?

    bluedolphin: I know that a microwave will actually damage the molecular structure of the food. I even read a study done of plants that were fed microwave water as opposed to regular water – the former all died. I know that infra-red is not not extactly on the same wavelength as a microwave. I believe it’s closer to the visible spectrum. I don’t really know enough to recomend it or not, but to be on the safe side a regular dehydrator is probably best. Hmmm . . . someone should repeat the plant study, but with water which has been in an infra-red sauna.

  • Please all watch this 15 minute video for a quick impression of what Bisphenol A in Polycarbonate is doing to our body. The video which was originally broadcasted on Israelian Television consists of two parts. The videos have been perfectly translated/synchronized to English :

    Polycarbonate leaches Bisphenol-A (Part 1/2)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iJTBv3RV5g

    Polycarbonate leaches Bisphenol-A (Part 2/2)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN22F1dlaog

    Also interesting to learn from this video is that in Japan they even banned Polycarbonate bottles. ””Every”” bottle you will find on the supermarket shelves are now made from Glass, there are no more plastic bottles to be found !! In other words people from the Western world are immune to Polycarbonated bottles and the Japanese are not ? come on !! Besides that, according to the research Polycarbonate can also make a human become infertile over time……

    Says enough folks, every one of us who has a polycarbonate blender container just fell into the same trap because our so called health authorities said it is safe. Well it is not, and I am also angry about this. Spoke again to VitaMix Corp about this and they say that Vitamix is a health company that has been in the market for 86 years, in other words they pretend to know what they are talking about. For a few good reasons I just don’t trust this anymore ofcourse.

    So I did a simple test, took some distilled water and let it stand for a few hours in the container, and then tasted the water. It tasted disgusting !!! So where did this horrible taste all of a sudden came from, exactly !!

    Then I did the same comparison test with a few tomatos, I sliced a few tomatos with a ceramic knife, then placed the parts in an Organic cheese cloth and pressed as hard as I could to make a mash from it. Taste ! Then I did the same but this time blended a new set of tomato parts into the Vitamix and shortly blended to the same consistency, taste the difference.

    I confronted Vitamix about this, and they say that you should never leave your fluids in the container after you blended it. Aha, THAT SAYS ENOUGH (They almost admit it) They just know about the seaping of Bisphenol A but don’t want to admit it because of fear of claims I assume.

    Also I asked about what kind of coating has been used for the outside of the blade. Answer from Vitamix Corp: “That is our secret†Yeah right, so that secret could also be mercury or any other toxic material what they presume as safe, I mean who knows. Besides that why does this have to be a secret, what a complete bull !! It’s our full right to know about every ingredient that is being used in the fabrication of these so called health products, I mean we put it in our body for god sake. We should stop blindly following others (Food commissions) because they stamp certain materials as save. As you can see those commissions are not working in our best interest.

    And until now I have not even studied the smelly ‘Thermoplastic Rubber’ where the container cap is made from, but it also promises to be no good. pfffff

    Ofcourse I know there are a lot of companies alla Vitamix who fabricate Polycarbonated containers, I mean in this tread I only spoke about Vitamix so far. So let’s be clear about this, this is not a smear campaign against Vitamix. It is just to inform ourselves that we should become aware and very critical to ALL those blender companies. I also think it is anyway a waste of time to confront them about these shocking facts, those US and European blender companies all hide behind the same Food Safety Comission.

    I sincerely hope that together we can find a blender on the market that works for all of us, and which is safe as it should be. So I hope that this tread can stay alive. Any input and research from others is more then welcome.

  • Wow, this is an interesting thread! I want to know all I can, please keep it coming… I have a couple Klean Kanteens-I really like them. I don’t know about anything leaching from them. I am looking for glass bottles, but haven’t found any in the retail stores where I am. I have been re-using the bottles from the Kombucha I’ve drank. Does anyone have any recommendations for bottles?

  • Thank goodness I my Cuisinart blender has a glass container!

  • I’m tried using stuff like snapple bottles (but not snapple cause I don’t drink it… something similar… I think it was Honest Teas that I used to drink?) ... anyway, I loved them BUT after a while I found that the cap was starting to rust.

  • In respect to someone asking about what Microwaved water does to our plants, here the test with illustrated pictures:

    http://www.execonn.com/sf/

  • What are good bottles to use? I was also looking for a water bottle, I’ve been re-using plastic bottles forever (I know, terrible, but I have nothing else) and need to find something else. Would Sigg be any good? http://www.sigg.ch/

  • Shaker, thanks a lot for this insight. I have known for a long time that plastics leach chemicals into the food or beverage that is contained inside them. I read an article that was writen in a magazine I picked up at a health food store. It said that the recycle numbers 3, 6 and 7 were the most toxic. I also understand that as you mentioned any of the types of plastic can be toxic if they are treated with other chemicals like Bisphenol A or others. I rarely use a blender but when I do I use one with a glass container, that said I also use a personal blender from Tribest which has a plastic container for making strawberry smoothies at work. I suppose it also adds some toxins to my food. This all brings us back to the best way to eat, this is the way nature has created the food, right off of the plant. I don’t know why Victoria Boutenko would recommend consuming foods processed in a blender. Is nature wrong? Can we not get the vitamins and minerals from eating the food right from the plant? Do we really need to try to ‘improve’ on what nature has created? Is it in fact improving the food? Blending does 2 things to food, the first is breaking down the bonds on the cell walls, which might be a slight advantage to eating the food right off the plant, or might it not be as beneficial as we think?, the second is the oxidation of the food by the oxygen that is now getting exposed to each and every cell of the food, as we all know oxygen can react with living cells and cause damage. This is why we hear so much about anti-oxidants. Does the damage that occurs to the food out weight the benefits (if any?) or do the benefits overshadow the damage? I believe the best case is a break even scenario where there is no advantage at all in blending. Nature has created our teeth, gums, saliva, enzymes and tongue to do all the blending we need to get the most from food. I don’t think we need to be too concerned with the kind of blender we use because nature didn’t provide a blender to use so we need to take it’s hint and not blend.

  • I have a BlendTec and it is made of the same materials as the VitaMix unfortunately. Mine never smelled and I bought it new. Before that I had a Oster with a glass carafe.

    I wonder if you can have a blade built into glass carafe though – it might not hold up as well? I know the reason they make the carafe out of the polycarbonate is that it is virtually indestructable which glass is not. I wonder if that is the reason why they didn’t make the carafe in glass. I think they were also trying to create something lighter since the bases are so big.

    You can speed up the “outgasing” of your carafe by washing it and than letting it sit out in the sun. New items that are made out of plastic or treated with chemicals can often take years to outgas. The carafe, since it gets washed alot, will be quicker than say a new mattress or a couch. Realize how many chemicals are around you especially when you sleep – your mattress and your sheets and pillows. Unless you have bought organic have all been treated with formaldehyde – when you think about how much time you spend in your bed, you realize how much you absorb and breathe in these chemicals.

    I try to buy stainless steel for all my other applicances – Cuisinart is good for that. I have a stainless steel dehydrator. I have also seen some blenders with stainless steel carafe – I think Oster has one. But I know my Oster before couldn’t do alot of the things my Blendtec does.

    I don’t really think the glass or stainless steel blenders may be perfect either though. There is always some part that is made out of plastic which may outgas some chemicals into your food. I gues it really depends on how much you use your blender.

  • @SocaL

    Very good point you are making here, thanks for asking.

    The only thing is, which is also partly being adressed by Victoria Boutenko, is that most of us cannot rupture the ingredients out of the plant fibers with our teeth. And those enzymes in the fibers are so important for the digestion of whatever fruit of vegie we are eating. It’s then like a missing building block when we cannot get these enzymes out for a complete digestion.

    Why, because 99% of the people don’t have wisdom teeth anymore as they where extracted because they couldn’t come through. (improper jaw development on an earlier age, because of a lack of the right nutrition) And the opportunity of getting wisdom teeth we also got from Mother Nature, those teeth should have been in the back of our jaw now being able to achieve this enormous force/pressure (just like a blender) during food grinding what is so nessescary to get the complete product enzymes out of whatever we chew with them.

    In other words most of us miss the optimal tools (read: teeth) to rupture the fiber and get all the nutrients out of them for a proper digestion. The jaw is similar to a plier, as you also know that most force comes from the very back of this tool. And thus in respect to the teeth, those are the wisdom teeth.

    Besides that, most people miss a lot of other teeth also. And will those people then be able to grind all that healthy raw foodstuff in their mouth and then swallow it in perfectly grinded form for proper digestion ? I mean if one is not able to chew the food (incl. fibers) completely (!) then certain enzymes will be missing during the digestion process. In other words you won’t get the full treat if you know what I mean, and then the body will have to work harder to absorb all the goodies. If being able at all !

    So that is why Victoria and some other raw food researchers came up with smoothies, like a surrogate replacement for what the missing teeth (wisdom teeth included) normally should have done.

  • @Gueenfluff

    “You can speed up the “outgasing†of your carafe by washing it and than letting it sit out in the sun. New items that are made out of plastic or treated with chemicals can often take years to outgas.”

    If you see the video I posted earlier then you will hear that the “outgassing” is not really an option in respect to Polycarbonate. Even worse, when this plastic type become dull because of intensive usage it will release even more Bisphenol A.

  • Hey Guys,

    Something I always try to keep in mind is BALANCE! We are all doing so many great things for our health that a little plastic isn’t going to kill us. As for glass containers I find mason jars to work the best. They come in so many different sizes that you can use them for almost all food storage. And as for water bottles if you don’t want to use glass try using a good quality stainless steel water bottle which isn’t going to leach any chemicals into your water.

  • Your food is in the Vita-Mix for a just a moment, really. I don’t think it matters at all. Besides, do you realize that nickel (the blades are nickel) is a trace mineral that needs to be present in our bodies?? Just like when some people use cast iron for frying their eggs, they can sometimes can get some iron into their systems. This is good. I wish the Vita-Mix container wasn’t “toxic” as they say, but this really shouldn’t be a problem unless you’re heating your vita-mix container over the stovetop. That’s when plastic become toxic. Pretty much everything that I put in the Vita-mix is either cold or just room temperature, not heated. I don’t believe you can get much, if anything, off the container like that. If so, it would be no more then the toxics you come in contact in a normal day even with a 100% raw, clean air and excersise diet. That’s my opinion, correct me if I’m wrong.

  • Does anyone know if this is resolved in the new 5200 mixer? It looks as if they have changed the composition of the materials (no BPAs). I have thought about getting ont he waiting list, but after reading all your great posts I think I might stick with my dinky (but glass carafed) blender.

  • I agree with LotusLady and SkyPrincess.

    Considering the state of todays world, I would be more concerned about other things that get in my body and not my blender being plastic. If you have a healthy raw diet, I wouldn’t worry about the plastic.

    Think about how many things we buy are packaged in plastic, the condition of our water that we bathe in and drink, the pollution we breathe, the chemicals that are present on our new clothes and towels and beddings (unless you buy organic). You spend 8 hours or more sleeping – you breathe in those chemicals all the time for the time you sleep. Your stuff is in the VitaMix for not even close to that time.

    I find it surprising when I met raw foodists who are really anal about everything they use when it comes to their food but than I go and use their bathroom at their homes and I find they use Crest toothpaste and commerical shampoos and conditioners and soaps on their bodies. You are working so hard with your diet to keep your bodies clean – but adding even worse toxins back in in other products and things you use.

    I would be more worried about using THAT stuff than the plastic in my blender.

  • wow, this is just whack! nothing is safe! i have a cheap blender with a plastic caraffe, and i think i’m just going to toss it. but now you’ve got me wondering about the metal blade. ...and plastic water bottles! i never thought about it before. makes me want to get my own distiller. i recently saw a new product that pulls water from the air and filters it through several processes, and it was the same size as a normal water coller, but without the bottle on top.

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