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Yes I knew this. Though im pretty sure you can get nama shoyu which is a raw soy sauce. Im not sure about miso ive never used it. But i know that a lot of faw foodies include them in their diets even though they arent 100% raw
Strictly speaking, nama shoyu is living, but not raw, because it's prepared in a similar way except for the pasteurisation. It's got enzymes and the like from the fermentation process. "Nama" means "raw" but it's just a name. This doesn't bother me at all, I still use soy sauce and miso, but others might be a bit more choosy so that's why I posted it.
I'd use the stuff if it didn't upset my stomach :(
http://www.southrivermiso.com is a good source for raw, unpasteurized miso. It's...different.
Waah! Missed that, thanks.