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Apparently sugars make him "blow up" (his words, not mine) and I suppose he somehow thinks he could possibly gain more weight by eating a bunch of fruit... ffft, I know. He likes fruit plenty, he's just worried about eating a lot of it. Even though that, too, has protein :P
He needs a lot of protein because, well, he does. He's German (big, stocky German) and needs the protein for muscle mass. He currently eats a LOT of meat and eggs and such and wonders where the hell I get all my protein... I'm currently not raw (because he's a snob and buying the food on his budget) and I keep telling him I'm eating a lot of peanut butter, and he said he never sees me eat it... WHEN I SIT THERE EATING IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM. Observant, this one ain't.
He's particularly worried about ending up looking like all the vegan people he's ever met... though I have told him that just because he knows a bunch of non-raw vegans who look like sticks doesn't necessarily mean they all do... I mean, I was non-raw vegan for over a year and I was still kinda dumpy...
Ah, he's just being paranoid about trying something he's looked down on his whole life (and has been criticizing me about since I moved in)...
BushCrazyRaw - good point about the amount of protein actually needed by the human body... When I was able to eat raw, I realised that I didn't crave protein as much as when I eat cooked food... not like I crave it much when it's cooked, mind you, but that's because my current diet has so little nutritional value period. He was very worried about me not getting enough protein, but really I always drank a smoothie a day and had some sprouted beans and almond ricotta in the fridge for snackies :) I'll pass along that info, it does remind me of when I went vegetarian then vegan, realizing that I really don't need that much protein. He's looking for a decent amount in the hopes that in addition to losing his chubb he might also rebuild muscle. LOTS of smoothies for this boy! And yeah, I'll up his fruit intake too, even though I'll have to convince him it's good... b/c he's also worried about looking like a stick (silly boy, completely clueless about real food)
sisterbecky - Oh yeah, it probably *is* a good idea to transition him so he doesn't spend all day on the potty... lol :P I went high raw all at once, so my body of course detoxed really quickly, but I personally liked the quick cleanse... however I am a considerable amount healthier than most people I know, and most people I know would freak out at a rapid detox from SAD... So yeah, great advice, I'll keep that in mind and transition him. That will also have the benefit of slowly fazing out the foods he's used to and giving him new ones gradually vs. just taking all his food away and giving him a bunch of "rabbit food", as he calls it :P And will help him get used to shopping differently, not freaking out that we don't leave the produce isle lol :P
I'm actually very blessed, he decided this of his own volition! I really haven't tried to get him to go raw with me, hell, I don't even ask him to be vegetarian, he usually makes fun of us "rabbits" and argues that humans are meant to eat meat. I honestly don't know WHAT I said to make him express interest, possibly the fact that every time he asks me why I feel bad I say it's because I went straight from raw vegan to standard vegetarian for him because he somehow thought raw is more expensive and he's on a tight budget. Although soon he'll realize that it's cheaper b/c you really don't need to eat as much!
Thanks guys! I'll let you know how it's going as soon as we get more grocery money!
Cami: I agree with you on the feeding him only the tasty stuff... some of us like the "not-normal" taste of some healthy food, but I dun wanna scare him off, so I'll feed him a bunch of yummy food for a while hee hee
Free: That's what I was thinking of, starting him off with a bunch of fruit and veg along with the meat he'll be eating twice a week for a while, then when I get another dehydrator(last one was lost in my last move boohoo), making him protein-packed goodies like cookies and burgers and my favorite raw food EVER, Brownies mmmmmmmmmm...
Hey Moonlight,
I am new to eating RAW but not new to eating vegan. My husband is a martial artist and does crazy weight training sets, runs, katas and forms ... you name it, he does it. When I first introduced vegan eating to him, he expressed big concerns about losing muscle mass and wanted to eat alot of protein. He ate lots of tofu and soy based foods and eventually got sick from eating so much of that. When he finally let go, he reached the lowest body fat and highest muscle mass ever ... far better than eating BAD (basic american diet).
I found this website with hints and information from RAW and other vegan athletes (check out the forums): http://www.veganbodybuilding.com. A gradual introduction might be the best approach and seeing other big, beefy guys who are vegan (many of whom I just learned are also RAW vegan) might be exactly what he needs. Best of luck to you and keep us posted!
Star*child
Keep in mind that an 800 pound male gorilla maintains his mass eating fruit, veggies, and nuts/seeds :) I'm sure the boyfriend won't wither away...rather get fit and trim...