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Bananas - Hybridized/Seedless Fruit

a few different “raw authors” recommend not eating any fruit or veg that is seedless or overly hybridized (bred) because this is too far away from a natural state. Not sure why but no one seems to bring up bananas as an example of this – they are seedless and completely unable to survive on their own. I have noticed recently that bananas are almost too sweet for me – if i eat them on an empty stomach i sometimes feel nauseous or get a sugar rush to the head. anyone ever feel like this? anyone know if it is even possible to buy a wild (or just seeded) banana?


  • humanimalhumanimal Raw Newbie

    Bananas are my main choice of food, so I eat a lot of them. I really haven’t had any problems with them.Plantains are relative of the banana family and they have seeds.

  • ZoeZoe Raw Newbie

    Wild banana is dark coloured and has big black seeds in it, and I don’t think it is sweet. I eat oranges, dates, bananas all the baddies, I reckon that if need be, one day my body will say no to these things and I will change. I am going to let my body decide ‘when’ and’if’ though.

  • JoescJoesc Raw Master

    Why is orange bad. They have vit c even though it is high in sugar it is simple sucrose. I don’t like bananas in the U.S. but I will eat it dehydrated. I love the small bananas from my grandma’s tree though. They are small and good.

  • ZoeZoe Raw Newbie

    From what I have heard, people don’t eat oranges, dates, bananas etc because these fruits have been so heavily hybrdised and over bred.

    And they say that many of these popular strains wouldn’t be abe to grow in the wild, they need chemical fertilizers and pesticides to help them grow. (Though obviously not your Grandma’s bananas Joesc!) This indicates that the plant’s immune systems have been destroyed by the over breeding. And is therefore an inferior food source.

    The modern strains of banana, apples and oranges are much much sweeter than they would have been back in the days before all this milarkey went on, i.e. 200 plus years ago. I heard that today’s apples are 200 times sweeter than the apples of 200 years ago. So people wonder if they are ‘natural’ and therefore good for us.

    It is generally accepted and easy to understand when raw fooders say eating wild food is the best. Eating organic produce from heirloom seeds a second best. And supermarket hybrids is third down on the list.

    Juliano doesn’t use any hybridised fruit and veg in his restraunts. He uses figs and other things instead, have a look at his menu to see what he makes and what ingredients he uses, it doesn’t appear to restrict his menu one bit: www.planetraw.com

    Personally, I do get it, and I understand and think yup that sounds right, but I don’t think I am ready and willing to give up apple juice, carrotts, dates, bananas… My long term goal is to have a patch of land for myself and grow my own stuff using heirloom seeds. Then I will know that what I eat is the best I can find. Till then, I am going to have a date and banana party every day:)

  • JoescJoesc Raw Master

    I don’t think I could cut those out my diet either. Especially not oranges.

    My grandmothers bananas are half the size of the bananas up here but it taste sweeter to me, it doesn’t have a starchy taste and it is a darker yellow and the skin/peel isn’t as pretty, it is a dark yellow, orange black color. I don’t believe that the fruits that are hybradized are sweeter. There are a lot of fruit trees in Jamaica and the mangoes, coconut, banana, oranges are much better and sweeter down there. The other fruits such as tomatoes, peppers, and, papaya have more flavor to it. It taste better. Even the sour tamarind taste better. My grandmother had a tamarind tree too. I haven’t tried the cocoa up here raw but the one on my grandmothers tree is extremely bitter. We use it as medicinaly use. When my cousin was sick as a baby they crushed up a little and put it with the goats milk (yes we have goats too) and gave it to her. I actually hate about every food in the U.S. compared to the ones in Jamaica. The oranges are easier to peel up here though. The skin isn’t as thick, and they aren’t as big in Jamaica. But now that I think about it a lot of the fruits are not as big or thick skinned as the ones up here.

    I use to love eating the almonds on my great grandmothers tree. I haven’t seen the fruit in the U.S before but it is so good. I am going there in May, I am going to go straight for the sugarcanes first when I get there.

  • I have been out of the country and ate fromm untampered crops. Everything is sweeter. US fruits taste quite bland compared with fruits from untampered, unadulterated crops grown from rich soil. I am so upset about what they are about to do to almonds!

  • humanimalhumanimal Raw Newbie

    Yeah Joesc, most of the fruit in the US that are not organic are like 3 times bigger than they are supposed to be. I saw an non organic apple once that extremely shiny and looked like it was on steroids :) Now that is just abnormal! If the apples aren’t organic then they will not enter my stomach.

  • daisygirldaisygirl Raw Newbie

    Thank goodness here in Ontario the Loblaws chains have organic fruit. They sell bags of organic granny smith apples that my kids adore and for a reasonable price. I ate an apple not that long ago that wasn’t organic…it was mushy and flavourless and I had to throw it away after a couple of bites. :(

  • JoescJoesc Raw Master

    Your right Vaughn the fruit does look like it is on steroids.

  • I feel no desire to give up any fruit. How far am I supposed to take this? That’s just too much for me. I still have to live & function in this world. I agree that the wilder & more natural, the better- but to me- that doesn’t mean just cut out everything else. That’s just what works for me in this moment.

    Daisygirl- don’t even eat apples anymore b/c of that same thing. Mushy & porous & gross.

  • chilovechilove Raw Newbie

    Hello all,

    I eat about 98% fruit including a lot of “hybridized fruit” and I feel better than I ever have. I definitely do not worry about it. Fruit is our natural diet. Humans have been “hybridizing” fruit for a long, long time. It doesn’t meant they aren’t healthful.If you access to wild, ripe fruit, by all means eat it and enjoy, it probably is a little healthier than modern store bought fruit but otherwise don’t stress. Eat fruit, be happy. :-)

    All the best,


  • And here I thought I was going crazy. I cannot eat a banana on an empty stomach as it gives me pain all through the morning. I can sometimes stomach it mixed in something like a smoothie or an icecream but I have learned to avoid them almost completely. I wonder if this is why, interesting.

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