I thought this thread would be a bit hippy-dippy absurd, but it has turned into something quite beautiful and the postings have made me think on nature and life and how raw food affects our personal vibrations (which affects everything around us!)
...... starting off on raw food from a point of being pretty ill I found healing was coming first from daily, very gentle sun-bathing, and secondly from resting on green grass in the presence of some beautiful well-grown Norfolk Pine trees near where I live.
As I got stronger I expected my body ‘hunger’ for both these things to become less obvious to me. To some degree this has occurred (I am not now conscious of a drive to crawl into the sunlight once a day or of any sensation of absorbing healing from solar energy), but the tree thing has stayed with me. Being near Norfolk Pine trees introduces a calming and uplifting ‘resonance’ that seems to come even from seeing them in the distance. It doesn’t work the same, or maybe quite the same, with other trees. It doesn’t seem to have anything to do with whether I hug the trunks (I tried it :) ) Wondering if anyone else has experienced similar?
Mopoke~ I have a similar experience from being around water, usually the ocean. I don’t know if I would have the experience around a lake or river since I haven’t been around them for an extended period of time. I have a concern that I will really crave this if I moved to a location that isn’t accessable to the ocean.
Hippy-dippy…are you making fun of me??? Just kidding! :)
Sounds beautiful to me!
Thanks for sharing that experience. Thats awesome! I have had a similar experience with trees but mine is more general. I’m not a particularly sentimental person EXCEPT wih trees. I love ‘em. Cry when I see one cut down without cause or dying.
Once about 20 years ago I was sitting in a college class staring out the window and my eyes rested on a tree and okay I know this is going to sound OUT there but…... for about 30 seconds all physical boundaries ceased to exist for me. I was that tree and that tree was me. I knew for a brief moment that we all are energetic forms resonating at different levels but that we are all connected. Needless to say it was a transformative moment. One that has remained with me always.
So…ahem. You are not alone. ;0)
not absurd at all. You are just gaining a unique connection with nature. Since you live near Norfolk pines you will have closer connection with them. They are the specific trees that are providing you with the oxygen that you breath. They are keeping you alive, so its not strange that you feel more drawn them. It looks to me like you have finally reached a higher state of mind. You have actually opened your ears and removed the blindfold from your eyes. Cherish what you are feeling, nowadays not very many people are willing or able to feel so close with nature.
The salt air near the ocean is very healing. A Chinese doctor told me that cancer patients ought to move near the seashore.
The sunlight is also very healthy because it helps to regulate your body cycles.
I’m right there with you, Mopoke. In some of the darkest, worst times in my life, being near, under, around trees has saved me. Just their presence is enough. Long green leaves, rough and smooth bark, their silent size and health. They ask for nothing. Trees are very healing, just being in their presence calms and centers me.
If more of us could feel the peace you feel in their presence, we would live on a much safer, happier planet.
The book “Celestine Prophecy” has a bit in it about the energy of trees, especially older, more mature trees. That book is pretty out there in places, but it had some parts that have stuck with me even though I read it years ago. It’s pretty interesting.
Also, water (lakes, ocean, waterfalls, rivers, etc) emit negative ions which make you feel good.
I need to get outside more.
Yes… Negative Ions! Near bodies of water and on mountains… (which btw, I thought it was interesting that Jesus met crowds of people near these places… I should go back figure find out all the related texts).
And, there are negative ions after (and probably during) rainfall!
Negative ions make you ‘feel good’.
Plus, the sun affects your melatonin/seratonin levels which also makes you ‘feel good’.
References?... Dr. Neil Nedley’s “Proof Positive” book. There are more scientific references… that’s just the one that comes to mind. I also recently read in Johns Hopkins magazine (which we get in the mail) about the negative effects of night-shift work. Somewhat related to this ‘feel good’ topic.
There is a book series about Ringing Cedars by Vladimir Megre. I haven’t read the books yet, but understand that one of the points mentioned is that:
“cedars live to be five hundred and fifty years old. Their needles catch and store the whole spectrum of bright energy. During the period of the cedars
I am so very happy to learn that I’m not the only one!
My family thinks I am so strange because I find trees so comforting, as shane said “In some of the darkest, worst times in my life, being near, under, around trees has saved me…Trees are very healing, just being in their presence calms and centers me.” AMEN
This is such an interesting topic! I don’t know that I’ve ever talked about this with anyone, but I definitely feel very strongly connected to grass and leafy trees. I live in Santa Fe during the summers, and I often feel almost desperate with the lack of leaves and grass (though the fantastic sky and clean air helps :) ). Now I’m living on the second story of a house that is surrounded by old trees, and I often just stare out into the leaves all day long. It is heavenly!
I also feel a very strong resonance with rain and snow—precipitation makes me almost euphoric. Interestingly, I do not feel particularly connected to the sun or to trees with needles. Bluedolfin, I’ve never lived near the ocean (except for NYC, which hardly counts, in my mind), but I believe that I’ll never be able to leave once I do!
Ps – Can I just say that I love you guys!
I too feel this deep resonance with Nature & throughly enjoy it : ). Living food definitely amplifies & reminds us of this Oneness.
Based on your posts, here is a book I believe you will all love: Awake in the wild by Mark Coleman.
Mark also teaches nature retreats … http://awakeinthewild.com/home.php
Thank you so much for this sharing to everyone! Newbie when I got to your post and read as far as …’store the whole spectrum of bright energy’ my scalp started to crawl..it’s still happening and I just worked out that rather than ‘crawling’ it’s vibrating! A long time ago a chi master taught me that mountains and oceans and indeed all things have a particular ‘pulse’ of electrical energy that is quite different from the staccato loops of ac/dc voltage and that finding a good source of this energy is very nourishing. I just never actually ‘felt’ it to such a degree before :)
Humananimal I am blessed and I am and will be grateful for this.
And Bluedolfin I’m a sea soul too :) Every day, at present, into the Indian Ocean and it’s pure joy….. I wilt away from the coast and water.
Newbie I just read your post again and now I am sure Norfolks and Cedars must be a bit the same. They were giving/blessing/singing/ringing to me and still do. :) :)
:) I am indeed blessed and while I don’t want to repeat the steps on the journey that brought me to the point of ‘transformation’ I am so grateful for the wisdoms.
And now I would love to meet a cedar!
And so she comes to dream herself the tree,
The wind possessing her, weaving her young veins,
Holding her to the sky and its quick blue,
Drowning the fever of her hands in sunlight.
She has no memory, nor fear, nor hope
Beyond the grass and shadows at her feet.
- Hart Crane
Oh, I’m so thrilled! If you go to this site:
you can read the first chapter of the first book (Anastasia), which goes into more detail about why the cedars ring. They get so full of energy that they emit a “ringing”, like you mentioned. I wish there were more trees in the world. I hate the fact that they are being cut down left and right – it thoroughly depresses me, but I feel helpless. The only thing I can do is plant more, which I did this year! (yay!)
Positive thoughts to all living things
Oh well, I just lost my poetic post about my mountain top, and tree love. The smell of mountain mint around the alpine lakes and streams, and waterfalls, the pungent scent of golden quaking Aspen in the fall, and then the electricity, I hav efelt that in the mountains in Alaska. I am romanticly spent, for now. This topic touches such me in a deep way, as I now live in the Midwest, and we all know that the Chicago skyline is the closest thing to a mountain here. But about the negative ions, does anyone know about ionic cleansing? Maybe that will make me feel like I’m in the mountains. And, what about the cedars of Lebanon, as a description of you how strong your beloveds legs are. And where do Norfolk pines grow? Are these the same as the smaller ones I used to have as houseplants?
Marichiesa that sounds a beautiful experience – out of time and into wonder :) and Shane it’s lovely to check back here and find your exquisite poem – this posting has turned into something like a beautiful garden growing :).
Rawrawraw, Norfolk Pines are native to Norfolk Island ;) I think they have small ones around Christmas time in pots, but the ones near where I live stand in a line at the edge of large grassy oval, defining the border between the oval and a flat parkland river shore
I am going to go read about the cedars now!
kuen, I can’t wait to read your second story ;-) now, I’ll have to look for that movie!
Mopoke~ yes, I have always called them Norfolk Island Pines. I have grown several from teeny little 4” pots until they were too big for my space, and had to sell or give them away. My husband alnost never gets over me giving away a certain plant, especially, the last pine. I do the same thing with Ficus and Umbrella trees.but these guys were 7’-12’ tall, my daughter lost it over a ficus tree when she was 5. But again, now I live in the Midwest and don’t get enough light in my house, my last house was passive solar on a hill, with a view of about 80 miles of a 10,000’ Mt. range, only 10 miles away. Where the Quaking aspen, mounain mint, and alpine lakes are. BIG SIGH! Back to they pines, WHERE do they grow outdoors besides the Norfolk Island? Do you live in North America, Europe, what climate?
Mopoke – if you had a chance to read about the cedars, what do you think?
Wow, what a great thread, we are all connected-of course by nature. I’ve been feeling a void, enhanced by depression here in Iowa for so lon now. The summer melats it temporarily. 5 feet of snow, barely any trees, NO sun since, what September? Ahhh! I gotta get outta here! I believe in the Seasonal Affective Disorder, and suffer terribly from it. Anyone wanna help me move?!!
Every weekend I take my favorite hike in the woods up to a particular waterfall. There are just some trees that I have to touch or feel their energy. I have always played a little game with myself over which tree is the Grandpa and which are the children or grandchildren. They all seem to have their own personalty so to speak. If you can’t tell, I love trees!
rawrawraw you sound as if you have green fingers! :) And what a magnificent home to have lived in. The air must have been like champagne.
I live in Australia and was raised among the Norfolk Pines of Manly Beach in Sydney, then moved to Western Australia and lived in an incredibly beautiful south coastal location called Albany where (this is a bit strange now I come to think of it) my beloved beach was lined with bright grass and magnificent Norfolk Pines. Now I am in Perth and my favourite spot is this lovely river foreshore. Even though I never previously ‘felt’ Norfolk Pines in this way until last year – it seems I have always liked them and loved the places where they grow.
Back when I was ill I think I was going so very very slowly and had become so fragile and sensitive that the goodness of the trees was almost like a shout. Since then I think maybe Humananimal is right and eating raw food must have changed my vibration or my ability to relate to vibrations or something….. :) I know they grow in Capetown and I am sure they must be in other parts of the world as well.
Newbie I read the chapter. It seems a very interesting book and it’s made me remember a story I heard about Native Americans (I can’t remember which tribe!) and how when selecting a tree to chop down for a totem pole they would go into the forest and choose the most sacred powerful tree of all but select it in a very ‘sneaky’ sort of way and actually make a whole lot of fuss and intent and ceremony towards a secondary ‘proxy’ tree standing quite close to the one they really wanted. Then at the last moment they would chop down the ‘unsuspecting’ one.
It is interesting that the cedars in the story seek to be harvested.
There was a book years back called ‘Supernature’ by Lyall Watson which proposed that plants actually can faint… (hmm the story about the totem trees might have been in that too!).
Cheers and Blessings :)
Yes! This is grand! Trees are amazing! newbie thanks for sharing the link on cedars. I have to say that I have felt a very strong connection to cedars. I just moved to vermont but when I lived in Northern California, they were always around me. They are so mighty and grand and strong and wise. When I felt like I needed some love, I would go up to one of these trees, and as I approached I would just feel so little, like a child about to be embraced by a strong, wise mother. I would get goospumps and blush. Seriously. It was so intimate! And then I would just lean against them with my body and I would just immediately feel my energy being grounded. I miss the sweet cedars. But when I snowshoe now (alone) in the forest, I deff feel like I am surrounded by friends.
Actually, come to think of it, the image of Buddha sitting and meditating – isn’t he meditating at the base of a tree? I don’t know which kind. It would be interesting to find out…
Ah, here it is: http://online.sfsu.edu/rone/Buddhism/footsteps…
“On a full-moon day in May, he sat under the Bodhi tree in deep meditation and said. “I will not leave this spot until I find an end to suffering.”
Isn’t it amazing how prominently trees figure in to everything from the Bible to self healing. Maybe there is more to this than we initially thought.
I think there is too newbie. In Bali there are restrictions that no building may be higher than three stories (ie no taller than the tallest trees that grow around). On Sanur beach, nevertheless, a high rise development went up in the 70’s (I think) and, even more than building so high, they did not follow a holy man’s advice and devote a sacred room to the ‘sea goddess’ (Balinese people are incredibly beautiful and holy, and have tweaked Hinduism to fit their own sacred vision which seems to involve a philosophy that the Divine Oneness has many faces with many keys opening doors to glimpses of That Divine and that it is important as eating (raw or otherwise;) ) to constantly pray and worship and celebrate on a moment to moment basis. )
Anyway the hotel burnt down. All except the one room that was supposed to have been given over as a temple.
It’s been rebuilt but so far the restriction on height remains and that is the only high rise in all of Bali.
And if you think back to village cultures in England, the only thing that was higher than the trees would be the church steeples.
There is a lot of food for thought here. But at the end of the day I guess it all comes back to World. Everything has it’s signature (think of the Bach flower remedies…and indeed modern pharmaceuticals) And people seem to be unique in that we alone, rather than waiting on generational evolution, are able to change that signature or vibration by how we think, eat and choose to live.
I was just looking up Hart Crane after reading shane’s poem again, and remembered Rumi and did a search and found this observation;