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raw choco..i must admit that this very well may be true about the idea that we all may metabolise certain foods in different ways from each other. So then consider: those native peoples could have a hundred generation head start on some of us with respect to the use of cacao and the body’s ability to adapt to or integrate its effects. My personal experience has shown the “high and crash” phenomenon on an extreme scale. i am sensitive to caffiene, however. I am not taking my chances as long as all available supporting evidence is supplied by sellers.. unless anyone knows of any positive independent studies??
I emailed Paul asking for references, you know for all the animal studies, blood level info, “one of the most addictive substances” etc.
this is the reply:
“You would have to shurch the net to find the info> I don’t have it on hand”
So although the article portrays the information as science, the way it is presented is actually more like, someone saying “trust me”, than someone attempting to foster independent thinking.
Personally I would rather fill up on foods I know are good like lettuce and apples, than look for exotic “elixirs” that just happen to taste yummy only when mixed with a sweetner, in a receipe. This just seems like common sense.
so in my opinion… so much of this just sounds silly. i registered just to reply here and share my own experiences. i’ve been on living foods for quite awhile and i’ve consumed quite a lot of cacao, chocolate smoothies, chocolate pies and desserts and i’ve never felt any ill effects. i’ve eaten straight handfuls of raw cacao beans at a time. it’s quite interesting that there’s such a huge case that’s been made when i’ve met people who have straight fasted on cacao for days and had a wonderful experience. so anyway… not everything is for everybody. cacao definitely works for me. i also don’t in any way or have ever felt addicted to it. i’ll go for days without even thinking about it. peace and love everyone!
I bought some raw cacao nibs for the first time – online – and they came in last week. Yesterday I used some for the first time. When I woke up yesterday I was dragging – I had not had a good night’s sleep, had slept wrong and had a kink in my neck. I thought I was going to just relax and have a nice afternoon nap. First I decided to try out the cacao nibs in a smoothie. About 20 minutes after drinking it, my neck kink was gone and I had a major energy burst. I cleaned out closets and drawers and was quite alert. Was this the caffeine or some additional quality in raw REAL cacao? I was NOT jittery like a normal caffeine high. I had no after-crash and felt just fine today. Still, cacao will be an occasional treat for me unless I see something compelling that convinces me to do otherwise.
I have no experience eating cacao. I gave up eating chocolate as a teenager, that was over thirty years ago, so the raw versus of chocolate didn’t appeal to me. However, I have been looking at a lot of raw websites and notice a push for the exotic foods including cacao. I agree with RawJim that you don’t need exotic foods to live the raw lifestyle. In fact it is best to eat the foods “under your own fig tree”; the ones in your neighborhood as much as possible. That’s why I frequent the local farmer’s market and eat with the seasons. I read all the links that you all mentioned especially the one mamastinky suggested from paul nison and jeremy safron had to say about the short and long term side effects of raw and roasted cacao. In short, consume it none or very little as a entertainment food and not as a health food. Thanks for all views. It helped me make a decision about cacao. Thanks again.
Someone on RawFoodTalk warned people who have battled with drug addictions about raw cacao. Said he gave them a try and it gave him the same feeling from when he did whatever drug he did and that was years back.
He also said he had to be careful with coffee.
The thread was deleted for some reason, but I suppose some people can handle it while others don’t? I can’t handle it too well myself.
I was on cacao and I talked to a poster once, the ralph lauren ad for black cologne. HAHAHA I did.
another time I felt like I was in an Edward Gorey drawing, and another I flew through space on my couch
I had a lot.
I went to Paris on a cacao fast, I must have visited 12 museums in awe of everything and did not talk to a single person. I had cacao beans wrapped in dates, this is serious guys