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the brand new, all glittering 80/10/10 - 30 day challenge



  • Hey all, good morning! I am feeling great this morning, drinking my papaya-oj-banana smoothie and contemplating my morning run. This challenge has made me feel so good that I am considering a race in July—8k, which might be more than this body can handle, but I am going to start training as though I am going to enter it, and we shall see.!

    I can tell you one thing, a week ago I would never have thought I’d have the energy to start training, but eating the 811 way (well, CLOSE to the 811 way :)) has given me so much energy. Once I transition to REALLY 811, which I may do, I bet my energy and stamina increases even further!

  • nycgrrl….great…love it…..

    i also feel great today…..not really a challenge cos it aint that challenging…no deprivation to be had when comsuming loads of tasty, sweet fruit

    have fun :o)

  • pianissimapianissima Raw Newbie

    i go to the store 3-4 times a week. it’s on the way back from my yoga studio, so i like to go frequently for a few things. and now add to that the farmer’s market twice a week (but they only have lettuce for the moment).

    i’m getting most of my calories from watermelon. :)

    i have a problem though. yesterday i woke up and i thought it was really detoxing, well, i’ll spare you the details. but i ended up feeling nauseous all day, and going to bed with what felt like a fever.

    today i feel a little better (no more achy muscles), but i still feel a little nauseous. thoughts?

    i’ve been eating about 83/9/8 and getting a lot of greens. i’m not sure if this is just detox, or whether i got some food contamination from something…

  • pianissimapianissima Raw Newbie

    p.s. i’m sure it wasn’t a fever though cuz i wasn’t sweating, but it felt pretty damn awful.

  • MarichiesaMarichiesa Raw Newbie

    Pianissima- there are actually some viral bugs going around in my neck of the woods ( Phildadelphia) BUT I wonder if it isn’t detox. I started with a kind of sore throat a day ago and I’m breaking out in the odd rash here and there. I’m thinking its detox beacause nothing like this has happened to me in over a year. I think you heretical take on this approach to eating not being great as a transitional thing is right on btw. Its definately and end game plan.

    El-Bo, You nailed it for me when you stated you have an ‘attachment to not feeling emotions’ Thats it in a nutshell for me. I love all the glorious tastes of food but when I overeat, guaranteed its because I do not want to emotionally invest in the real ‘meaty’ stuff of my inner world. Its appears easier to think about shopping and food prep. Not so.

  • pianissimapianissima Raw Newbie

    thanks marichiesa. i’ll see if it clears up… at least i got my appetite back this morning. back to watermelon! but i have been around kids a lot in the past few days… so i might need to be washing my hands more frequently (i just hate using bathroom soap! i guess i’m going to have to be one of those people that takes organic soap around in their purse).

    one of my favorite quotes from “raw spirit” goes something like: when you no longer have the obstacle of cooked food, life gets really real really fast. i am definitely one that got a little intimidated by how much more AWAKE i became… it took some adjusting.

  • pianissima…hope you recover soon

    thought i’d link to a post started by nycgrrl over at ‘giveittomeraw’, concerning calorie counting

    a lady called sarah posted her results and i asked her for an example of her daily intake…scroll down the first page for the answer…..interesting….it takes a while to up your calories but this is a great example


    her blog is here



  • RawKRawK Raw Newbie

    so yesterday was my first day complete (knowingly) 811… stats: 1753 calories, 85/8/7. little low on calories, but i just wasn’t feeling hungry enough. ill have to learn to post the screen shots like el-bo, i think its cool to see how others are getting their calories and using ideas from that.

    bitt—i usually shop huge about once every 2-3 weeks. i have found a distributor that sells to my little buying club. i buy most of my fruit by the 38 pound box, saving myself a lot of money and some extra trips. this week it will be big boxes of cantaloupe, honeydew, fair trade bananas, red grapes and smaller boxes of mangoes. i might take a shot on a large box of papayas too—though ive never had one.

  • so i can honestly say that I’ve failed the challenge :( I had a tomato and avocado salad today, and with my weekly stats showing about 74-8-16 or thereabouts I can definitely say I am NOT doing 811, certainly not like you other challengers! So I respectfully guess I will bow out of this challenge, but I am definitely going to keep my fat below 20%. I draw inspiration from one of the women who was interviewed in 811 who said she stuck with 20% for a while before transitioning to 10%—she says it would have been too hard otherwise. I have only been raw for 3 months, and only 95% raw at that, so it’s a journey that I am just beginning.

    I have learned SO much during this past week. I have learned that I was probably eating more like 40% fat before the challenge. And I have learned that my body loves lots of fruit and greens :) Maybe not 10 bananas (YET!) but still, lots of fruit.

    I hope to come and visit this thread, and take inspiration from everyone here. THank you for all the support, and to el-bo for starting this challenge!

  • wow…that’s a shame…we’ll miss ya

    if i could say one thing…from what you’ve shown so far, you aren’t overeating fat so much as undereating calories…more food in general would balance out that ratio a little


    never mind…in just 7 days you seemed to have gained many benefits, and as i always say to the doubters…just read the book, even if you don’t wanna do it….it will help inform many of your choices and allow you to refine certain elements of your diet that you’d never even thought about

    good luck…we’ll see ya around



  • bittbitt Raw Starter

    nycgrrl, i had the same problem in my one day attempt at it. it was just too hard to keep the fat down. today i am trying to be at least more intentional about my fat. my hubby did not put almond milk into my smoothie. i will try some fat-free dressings. i am trying to get more from seeds (like hemp) rather than from nuts. we’ll see how it goes.

    thanks for the shopping tips. i suppose i am lucky to hae 3 farmer’s markets nearby at different days of the week.

    pianissima i hope you feel better!

    el-bo you are right the raw revolution bar probably did not send me over the limit but the raw raspberry tart last night probably did! but it is so delicious!

  • :o) :o) :o)

    ah, the raspberry tart…...yeah, that’ll do it… :o)

  • thanks el-bo!!! you are such an inspiration and i can’t wait to see how the rest of your challenge goes! I do think you’re right about the calories—but ijust couldn’t get myself to eat any more bananas, especially since I kept getting constipated when I did.

    But everyone else: keep it up!!! regardless of whether you “succeed” or “fail” you will definitely learn something . I am def keeping my fat under 20%, and maybe even 15%. One day, it might get to 10% easily, but right now, it’s a struggle.

  • sorry to see you go nycgrrl, but in all honesty i am not too far behind. I really was finding myself being to rigid and dogmatic to adhering to 811 (other than the SAD day) and it is leaving me feeling deprived. I find the 811 so inspiring and enlightening, but I am really not ready to be 100% raw yet either. On Natalia Rose’s level quiz, I rated a 3, so I have a ways on this journey yet. It seems like the natural progression, but not yet where I am at either. I am trying to just keep taking one day at a time, but I would do better to ‘bow out’ of the challenge at this point and just keep visiting as a vicarious learning. I feel great, and it isn’t fat I miss, it is really for me just wanting condiments! like a little “raw” chococate, which I know really isn’t. I think it is more the raw aspect where I am slipping, less so the fat.

  • aww :( Im sad but i know what you guys mean. You have to be ready and sometimes it takes longer. It took me 6 months :) well good luck and hopefully your eating habits will be changed for better because of it:)


  • MOTHMOTH Raw Newbie

    Hey everyone,

    For the people bowing out of the challenge, I just want to say that you all are awesome for giving it your best. I’m sure it was a learning experience.

    I’m doing pretty good today. However, I am running into financial difficulties (money is really tight this week) so I am having to ration all my fruits. I’m okay with this; it’s like a challenge. How far can I spread out the food I have over the next six days? It may mean going on reduced calories for awhile, but that’s just how it is. As it is, I still feel very peaceful about what I’m eating. Apples!

  • RawKRawK Raw Newbie

    hey chicagomama—sorry to see you go. im curious what the Natalia Rose’s level quiz is…did you take it online?

    Moth—are you finding your apples cheap? they are quite expensive right now here in minneapolis.

  • had a brief scare when i saw your post, naturallyfruity…thought you were gonna bail also

    good luck to everyone who’s leaving…i’m pretty sure others have disappeared also…just more quietly…oh well

    it’s great for me…normally i would use this as an excuse to bail also….but i wouldn’t want to lose what i’m feeling for anything…35 years was way too long for me to work this out…..i can’t keep making those mistakes

    at this point in time, i’m hungry…but i aint craving anything…just looking forward to my next banana blend….everything is digesting so easily, my energy is incredible and everything just looks so vivid…

    this diet really sits on a knife edge if you don’t get the calories in…..craving things that we know aren’t the best we can give ourselves is just a testament to how far away we’ve got from our natural selves….why do we all wanna self-destruct….slowly ???

    these are juat thoughts…please don’t take them as criticism of your decision…i’m sure that these past few days have planted good seeds that one day you’ll return to tend and flower

    i guess i shouldn’t get so cocky…it’s early days…..but i’m already visualising WAY past 30 days



    p.s you’re welcome to jump back in, guys, if ever you feel like it….i guess it isn’t working as a ‘challenge’

  • pianissimapianissima Raw Newbie

    thank you for your well wishes! i am feeling a LOT better!

    rawK- her quiz is in “the raw food detox diet.” if you are eating vegan and raw you are “level 1.” there is no higher summit, so 8/1/1 would be like level -3 =)

    chicago—yeah, it’s important to not go into the deprivation zone. although, know that there will be a time when you’ll wonder what exactly you were being deprived in getting to eat 6 mangos and a whole bowl of cherries.

    if you miss condiments, go ahead and make some! you could get creative with orange juice, celery, some pineapple… or some zucchini and lemon and celery and yellow pepper and make some really great dips. the idea that “delicious food” has to be high in fat is the same mental obstacle you need to get over when you first go raw. i think all of us can agree that raw food is delicious food…

  • good point pianissima….maybe adding those little flavour enhancers will satisfy you mentally enough to keep going…..

    the longest i’ve managed before with this was 10 days, but i was clinging to it every day by a little thread…i was eating far too little and all i could think about was what i missed…it felt like deprivation

    i’m now eating almost double, and it makes all the difference

    after my last post i visited my local fruit shop…the smoothie i’m about to make will now be a mango/banana/persimmom smoothie….that’s not deprivation, it’s almost criminal ingulgence

    i’m on a quest to destroy my old ways…like frodo, carrying the ‘one ring’ , i must journey far to return the bad health to where it came…the ring is strong…it will tempt me….with sausages (how over that am i???)...i will stay strong, and be open to the many new experiences as i further my travels

    the fellowship has weekened…we have lost some great warriors…we must re-group and re-charge ourselves for the task ahead…..we will NOT fail…the fellowship lives on

    TO MORDOR !!!!!!...........................................................................................................

    is anybody still here ??? :o)

  • nycgrrl and chicagomama – i’ll miss your posts here.

    I just started raw food a couple of months ago and i feel so happy to have discovered this thread, site, and 811. I read every book i could find on raw food, but luckily it’s been too soon to have gotten attached to all the typical raw food recipes with nuts, seeds and avocado. I was even thinking of buying a dehydrator…..

    I’ve been feeling really good this week – no hunger (which is amazing for me). I also finally am back to the gym. I actually feel like exercising, which has not been the case lately. It feels intuitively right to be eating so many fruits and veg.

    I just finished the book and I found it absolutely convincing and inspiring. I do have resistance, but I am trying not to act on it. (can i eat this way forever? – i already have nostalgia for certain foods). I also am eating completely differently than my dh and kids. Although I have been following 811 completely, i have some anxiety about future social situations (dinner with friends, family stuff, etc.) and how I’ll deal with it.

    still having some issues getting the calories up especially in light of Dr. Grahams suggestion to eat between 1-4 meals.

    oh, and one question: i’m using cronometer, and i’m quite low on some minerals (e.g. sodium) – should i be concerned? I am eating greens.

  • pianissimapianissima Raw Newbie

    mimo22—totally normal, but totally mental. ;) it’s how much confidence you have in it. if you think its normal, soon your friends and family will just shift their “vision” of you. the most difficult shift was my own… realizing this was THE normal diet, why shouldn’t i be open about it?

    i wanted to bring something to light. i recently watched this documentary that EVERYONE needs to watch. here:”http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8250619454941053618&q=ring+of+power&ei=WjE0SJmOA4eQ4wL8yNjkCQ”

    you won’t even believe the complex web of power… anyway, it reminded me of how important buying locally was. i googled (blackled actually) “whole foods” and the carlyle group is a share holder. eeks. thank goodness for farmers markets! and local farms!

  • MOTHMOTH Raw Newbie

    Wow, thanks for that, Pianissima. Even though I work at Whole Foods (in the floral department) I have recently been feeling the urge to hunt out some farmers markets and eat more local. I need to get going on that. I will bike some distance if I have to in order to find fresh local fruit. (don’t have a car)

    Today: I feel AWESOME. Instead of just cramming the calories down my throat like the first few days of the challenge, I’ve been eating very intuitively, eating as much as I need to feel full, then stopping, and grazing mostly. It works better this way for me now, because as I mentioned, food is running low. I have apples and cucumber left, and that’s about it. Nonetheless, I don’t feel as though I am lacking in any way. With the full flush of summer upon me, I feel satiated by less food and more water. If I run out of apples, I will simply fast for a few days and live off my bodily stores. The intense heat and sun makes my appetite wan and fasting becomes much more approachable. Either way, I am planning on a fruit feast when I get paid later this week. :-)

    I feel so at peace lately. All I find myself wanting to do is write, and write and write. My novel is growing up! :-) I know that the clean diet of mostly fruit is helping to open and strengthen my channel and it feels perfectly thrilling to be able to see the flow of life in everything I do.

    I’m such a believer in fruit. It has amazing healing qualities. It feels the best in my body. When I want something non-sweet, I eat cucumber, or just gnaw on pieces of romaine. I love romaine too. I devoured my last head of romaine earlier, just munching on it, savoring the flavors. And DATES. MMM…fresh gooey caramel-tasting dates!

  • RawKRawK Raw Newbie

    today was a good day…i do miss the tastes of salt and sweet on my salads, but i will continue to find replacements. and of course, once my taste buds get back to normal, well then it wont be a problem at all.

    day 2 went better, more calories with a good ratio calories 1906, 84/7/9

    i like how Graham puts an emphasis on getting out in the sun. so i followed thru getting some sun on my run and while building a bamboo trellis in the garden for my pole beans.

    farewell to the people who dropped, drop by anytime and let us know how youre doing.

  • MOTHMOTH Raw Newbie

    el-bo – I support you in your quest! :-)

  • Day 8! :) Hey el-bo, do not be scared that i’ll bail out. I won’t. Ever. I know it’s really silly to say this and Im not saying that I won’t eat too much fat in the future or something. It’s just I never felt this strong about anything in my life. So believe it when I say I’ll be here until the end of the challenge :) and longer.

    Falling is not the same as failing. Please don’t feel like if you grabbed the wrong food for one day it’s over. If life isn’t over than nothing is over—if you choose of course. Health is about accumulation. It’s not about doing one single thing but that same thing repeatedly. If only one poor food choice is made it will not accumulate or make a difference until that poor choice is repeated.

    Anyway, good luck for those who are still in the game! :) 22 more days.


  • bittbitt Raw Starter

    well i did ok today. i am just not into calculating my fat intake, because it involves hemp seed dressing and stuff from the raw restaurant that i’m sure had fat in it.

    other than those things i had 2 green smoothies (no almond milk), tons of salad, and lot of melon. oh and some bananas. I am trying to think of keeping the fat amount small, keep the fruit and greens amounts big. probably good even if not technically 811, right?

  • KarmyngirlKarmyngirl Raw Newbie

    I went to the Raw Food & Yoga Expo in the city today, and I was totally inspired to stay on the plan! For fitness, I carried a 20 lb toddler and two huge bags full of his stuff (and mine) all day! I ate grapes, strawberries, blueberries, spinach, peaches, apricots, collards, sprouts and cantaloupe. There was plenty of gourmet food options at the expo, but I didn’t indulge, even when offered free chocolate, those “raw” bars and cashew butter!

  • well I am definately still here! I didn’t mean I wanted to leave completley, but I just felt I needed to take the pressure off a bit. That said, I finished my day at about 1300 calories, 74/7/18 were my stats. I still aspire toward the 811 as much as possible, and yes, have had the yummy fruit and veggie dressings. I prefer them to “normal” dressings, which I have always detested!

    I was feeling deprived earlier b/c I just really wanted a treat—had in mind to eat nut milk and “raw-even-though-its-not” cacao mixed with frozen bananas. Now I had my fix and am feeling more inspired if that makes sense. So I hope that although I am eating some foods that are “not allowed,” I can continue to post here when applicable.

    The main thing I have been unable to do when approaching 811, is sit down to 3 full meals of fruit. I find it much easier to have two bananas here, some apples there. Maybe it is better to make it more “formal” when it comes to eating? Fruit has just always seemed more of a snack food, so I guess that is why I am doing it that way. I am also having trouble eating all my greens. I make smoothies, but too much green in them turns me off. It is a challenge to eat a whole head of lettuce.

    Anyway, I really value coming here and will continue to be a presence, even if I am not as 100% as you others.

  • i have a question , please… can you use all your 10% of fat a day and make flax crackers? is it ok?

    and what about sun dried fruit ?

    i have’nt read the book yet but just from reading here i uncreased my fruit intake to almost 80-90%.. i enjoy every minute..

    thanks to all of you..

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